Published on January 4, 2006 By WOM In WinCustomize Talk



Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such "judgments" do not belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen

From watching whats on the news now a days, thought this made a lot of sense.


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on Jan 08, 2006
So you don't think there should be government?

Maybe that discussion should be saved for another thread...
on Jan 08, 2006
So you don't think there should be government


Yes, another thread for that one!

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on Jan 08, 2006
Alright, I think this thread died. I'll start that one about government though, and we'll continue. Yar har har.
on Jan 08, 2006
Thank God, this thread died, it got so lost from it's humble beginnings!


"The New School Prayer" bye all!
on Feb 07, 2009

As I had some free time I went back and took a look at some of the Threads I wrote and looked at this one and felt the need to bring it back up.  A lot of the people that posted on this thread have left/don't post much any more/don't post at all.  As there is more and more discord going on in our schools/country, I wanted to see what some of the newer people thought.  And as I've seen more and more of these older threads being brought back, I figured, why not.  And if one takes the time to read the whole thread, you will see a lot of great posts.

on Feb 07, 2009

WOM, I respect your desire for equal expression with those whose agendas differ.

I think school should be about school. Period. Public school should teach the curriculum. Period.

 

Leave religion to religious schools. As for the curriculum only....we have enough trouble getting them to

learn that. Why add superfluous stuff to it.

 

School cannot (and should not) do the parent's job. School is public. Religion is private.

As for the rest of the hair/iercings/pagan stuff....in my day we had an unwritten dress/conduct code that everyone knew.

Let the kids be taught at home and those that aren't? Well, they're going to run into problems.

 

Parenthood/reproduction need to be licensed activities. If the future is the children, then shouldn't their progenitors be demanded to show the same proficiency needed for parenthood that is demanded of driving a vehicle before that is licensed?

on Feb 07, 2009

WOM, this is why I go around checking some of the older threads and bringing them "back from the dead".  Some of them have relevant topics that might get some new light shed on them.  For instance, this thread, which deals with a very sensitive issue for folks on both sides of the fence.  And it is just as relevant today as the day you wrote it.  My town is in the midst of a lawsuit brought by someone who doesn't think it's right to have a trailer on school grounds that kids can go to and be taught about god.

I'm ok with the trailer on school property.  I'm ok with them teaching those kids that want to go there and learn.  As long as it isn't forced on the children.  That's when I have a problem with it.  I don't believe in religion.  But I don't shelter my children from it.  If they want to go to church, they can go.  If they want to go to youth group, they can go.  I believe they should learn as much as they can about everything they can.  How else are they going to be able to make sound, well educated decisions?  I was brought up in a household that force fed religion.  I'm very versed in the bible as it was a punishable offense not to be able to recite the required scriptures.  Later on in life, I read as much as I could about as many religions as I could.  I wanted to be educated.  And in the end, that's all I want for my children, to be well educated, responsible good adults.

on Feb 07, 2009

A lot of the people that posted on this thread have left/don't post much any more/don't post at all.

So the questions should be, why have they left, or, why don't they post anymore?

on Feb 07, 2009

WOM, I respect your desire for equal expression with those whose agendas differ.

I think school should be about school. Period. Public school should teach the curriculum. Period.



Leave religion to religious schools. As for the curriculum only....we have enough trouble getting them to

learn that. Why add superfluous stuff to it.



School cannot (and should not) do the parent's job. School is public. Religion is private.

 

Spot on!

on Feb 07, 2009

I have NEVER equated morality with religion.

Were they akin there would be less 'religious' wars.

There weren't

So there isn't.

Agreed. I once met one worker at place I used to work at... His first words were "I'm very good christian." Well I thought that it was a funny intro... and it was.

He missed 3 work days in a first week, and then recovered for a bit. Then he kept missing in least once a week for few weeks before being fired. Before that he become rude and took it out on clients of assisted house for deaf and blind. That's a good christian? Sure. : P

During that time, I, the atheist, missed only a total of 7 days in almost 2 years I worked there.

Don't get me wrong, I have met many good christians and atheists, but I also met some bad christians and atheists. My point is that religion got nothing related to moral, like Jafo said.

 

 

on Feb 07, 2009


There has never been a war fought because of something non-religious

Of course there have been wars over religion, but the majority are about money, power, greed and the control of land and people. Your statement is more than slightly inaccurate.

Not quite. For a drop of blood lost due to goverment, money or etc wars, there is more than a gallon of blood lost due to religious wars.

*edit*

Oops didn't notice that it was from 2006.

on Feb 07, 2009

I was brought up in a household that force fed religion. I'm very versed in the bible as it was a punishable offense not to be able to recite the required scriptures.

Sorry that happened to you, munkeh. Really. 

"Let the little chidren come unto me and suffer." Was definitely not the reputed speaker's intent.

 

on Feb 07, 2009

Sorry that happened to you, munkeh. Really.

"Let the little chidren come unto me and suffer." Was definitely not the reputed speaker's intent.

The point of that was if you force something on someone, they are apt to rebell.  It was in the end a good thing that they did it because I learned a lot more than 1 organized religion would want you to.  And with that knowledge, I learned that I really had no use for religion. 

"atheism is a non-prophet organization"

on Feb 07, 2009

 I agree...and understood the point in the first reply.

As for religion...especially the organized variety...don't favor it, but don't deny G-d's existence....after all, how can one be sure one way or another?

It isn't a matter of "fact" as some would have it...it's faith. Some need/enjoy it, some don't.

Nice to live in a place where that (supposedly) doesn't matter.

on Feb 07, 2009

I'am a christian but wouldn't go so far as to say Good.  Hehe, nope as I know I'am not.  If ya believe ya believe, if ya don't ya don't.  If ya believe ya came from apes or whatever, then thats what ya believe.  The dollar has in God we trust, the pledge of allegance used to have God in it(when I was a kid).  You used to have to swear on the bible in court.  There has been many changes since I was a kid.  What screws things up is church doctrine, doesn't matter what church ya belong to. 

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