Published on June 15, 2008 By WOM In WinCustomize Talk
I have 1/2 dozen areas that I MOD and I have to download everything to see if it works.  I have about 2025 mb downloaded.  I see people that comment on every skin that have downloaded about what I have.  Seems funny/stupid to comment on something that wasn't even downloaded.  How can that persons comments be taken seriously.  They can't and end up being just a joke that other people laugh and talk about.   I would imagine the same would go for rating, if ya don't download it, don't rate it.
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on Jun 15, 2008
for example, expecting technical imput from a non-skinner would be absolutely irrational....Made me laugh.  You have more than 1 mod that are not skinners.  Myself included.  Following your rational, I guess I should critique anything or I guess rate anything either.  And I guess the others also?  Hum.

I can see walls/logons/bootskins and screenshots probably don't need to be downloaded for the drive by...looks great.  But I would say the rest should be.  Because a WB looks good in the screenshot, doesn't mean it will look good on your screen.  And I'am not talking about working.  Ive been disapointed many times because it looked so good in the presentation but looked like crap once downloaded.  But if people are happy with BS, who am I to say they shouldn't get it.


Well WOM this is really great to know. I recently started a brand new windowblind for Windows viata and added a substyle for Windows XP. Now the problem I seem to be having is with the program list on the XP version. Maybe you could tell me how to install the attributes that are missing, that SK6 does not incorporate as the substyle is made in UIS1
on Jun 15, 2008
As with most things in life. If you haven't experienced, tasted, seen, fealt, heard, etc.. whatever it is your critiqing, your opinion is shit.
on Jun 15, 2008
As with most things in life. If you haven't experienced, tasted, seen, fealt, heard, etc.. whatever it is your critiqing, your opinion is shit.

I agree, and drive-by "excellent work" comments are meaningless, as far as I'm concerned, especially if someone hasn't even USED/evaluated the work in question. If that's all you're doing, then you might as well be saying "great preview" because that's all you're really commenting on. I guess it's just another trend, we have Vista-trendwhoring, now comment whoring?

I rarely leave comments on skins, and when I do, I make sure I *really* have something to say other than the blind "great work" because I know it will mean more when there's actual content and substance to the comment, and I'm damn sure a skinner will appreciate that more than someone just taking a quick glance and commenting on what turns out to be just the preview, and not the actual work itself.


on Jun 15, 2008
If you haven't experienced, tasted, seen, fealt, heard, etc.. whatever it is your critiqing, your opinion is shit.


I agree with you NT 100%. I do not rate anything I have not downloaded. I do not comment on any WB, Rainy, or Widget that I have not downloaded and tried out. Occasionally, though, I will comment on a blind that is a Vista blind that looks really nice in the preview, and hint about a possible XP version.
on Jun 15, 2008
commenting on something you have yet to download and use is ridiculous! how can somebody have a clue if the skin, wall, widget, cursor, or whatever is any good unless that person has actually used the damned thing? i very rarely comment on a skin but i have at least used it if i did leave a comment. judging by the screenie preview and commenting is ....is.....is....hell, i can't think of a word to accurately describe my distaste for such an act! a preview shot can be manipulated in such a way that it shows very little of an actual skin. a case in point would be virtually anything released by TSF.  there's no possible way a skin or any other submission to WC can be judged by the preview shot alone.
on Jun 15, 2008
I don't think there should be a ratings drop-down until download has at least been activated.


+1 and ditto for comments




... I realize the likelihood of this getting implemented is practically nil, but it's nice to dream   
on Jun 15, 2008
I don't think there should be a ratings drop-down until download has at least been activated.


It still does not mean the person used it, they could download it, then delete it from their system without even trying it.


I would rather see honest opinions of my work then to have someone tell me how great it is even though it's not true.


Absolutely!!


Most of the time if I comment, I have tried out the wb, rainy, wallpaper,etc. Perhaps not downloaded from WC, could be from DA and other sites I am at.

Anyway, good post WOM !!
on Jun 15, 2008
I understand what you are saying but on the other hand what possible harm is there in saying a few words to someone if you like their work?


All fine and dandy butch, but what about those drive by's and rating slam's without commenting... hmmmmmmmm. Ya ever know anyone that does that? hmmmmmmm?
It's crap and I for one would like to see what Wizard has proposed and as pictoratus has quoted.
on Jun 15, 2008
It still does not mean the person used it, they could download it, then delete it from their system without even trying it.


True ... but at least the person had to put some effort into it!    
on Jun 15, 2008
And it would still add to the download count.
on Jun 15, 2008
I agree with replies 10, 17 and a few others. BTW, I am logged in and I am a subscriber, and an Apprentice. When I try to rate a skin, I get a message that says I need to be a sub. or an Apprentice to rate a skin....WTF?
on Jun 15, 2008
PDJ, next time your in the chatroom(mon-fri) bring that up.
on Jun 15, 2008
True ... but at least the person had to put some effort into it!



Well yes, I suppose so!!
on Jun 15, 2008
I know I recently commented and rated some of Chadamus' uploads here on Wincustomize without downloading them. But that is because I have already downloaded them over at DA.


Depending on the time of day I find it faster to download from DA. Most here have DA accounts or they post a lot of their skins at several sites. Also some send me the skins in advance by email.

But I do agree with WOM. I have seen skins with 10 " WOW great skin " comments..
Then I download it and find 5 or 6 errors that no way could of been overlooked and the errors affect the use of the skin. So the comments were made without actually testing the skin first. I'm not saying they didn't download it...but they certainly didn't try it out before their comment.

on Jun 15, 2008
When I try to rate a skin, I get a message that says I need to be a sub. or an Apprentice to rate a skin....WTF?


Delete your cookies and log out then log back in.
That happens to me if I log into the Forums first rather than log in to the Wincustomize home page.
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